eastraxrc
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RULE SUGESSTIONBRISCA DRIFT RULES
This formula is based upon the full sized ethos of close racing with equally paced cars, where driving skill, sensible contact and reliability can win races.
Cars are to replica a full sized Brisca F1/F2 or Spedeworth V8/SuperStox.
BRISCA FI, F2 SPEDEWORTH V8, SUPERSTOX CAR CONSTUCTION.
1, SUGGESTED CARS TO BE USED HPI E10, ANSMANN, TAMYIA TTO1. BUT ANY OTHER CAR MAX MRP OF 129.99 POUNDS IF IT FALLS WITH IN THE RULES OF CONSTRUTION. (If not sure ask before you buy)
2, ALL CARS MUST BE BATH TUBE TYPE, 4 WHEEL DRIVE TOURING CAR, DIMENSIONS MAX WIDTH 210MM MAX LENGTH 400MM
3,THE ONLY CHANGES TO CHASSIS THAT ARE PERMITTED ARE MOUNTING HOLES. FROM NERF RAILS, BUMPER AND ANTENNA MOUNT.
4, motors must be closed end stock type Ansmann 21, 23 or Mardave G2 only.
5, ANSMANN. SOLID PLASTIC TYPE DRIFT TYRES ARE TO BE USED WITH NO ADDITIVES. (You will be asked to change your tyre if discrepancy occurs, failiure to do so will result in disqualification))
6, NO BADLY SCUFFED TYRES
7, BATTERYS MAXIMUM OF 6 CELLS 7.2volt nimh or nicad
8, RADIO GEAR FREE CHOICE BUT SPEEDCONTROL MUST HAVE REVERSE ENABLED max rrp £60
9. NO LOCKED DIFFS (Diffs will be checked by rotating a wheel in one direction and the other side will rotate the opposite way FREELY)
10, BUMPERS MUST BE RUN FRONT & REAR. FRONT MUST BE MIN INSIDE WHEEL MAX OUTSIDE WHEEL OF FOAM CONSTUCTION.
REAR MUST BE MIN INSIDE WHEEL MAX OUTSIDE WHEEL OF PLASTIC CONTRUCTION, MIN HIEGHT OF WHEEL NUTS
NERF RAILS MAY BE FITED BUT MUST NOT EXTEND OUT FURTHER THAN THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE WHEELS AND CENTRE HIGHT SAME AS WHEEL NUTS MINIMUM THICKNESS OF 9MM
ALLY NERF RAILS PERMITTED
11, BODY SHELL MUST BE PLASTIC ONLY AND RESEMBEL A F1, F2,V8 OR SUPERSTOX STOCKCAR (again we will allow ally shells at club level)
12, WINDOWS MUST BE CUT OUT ON ALL SIDES AND CLEARLY DEFINED(lexan define only do not have to cut out)
13, AEROFOIL OR FIN PLATE MUST BE FITTED AND DISPLAY NAME & NUMBER OF DRIVER.
14, ROOF GRADES MUST BE ON ROOF OR AEROFOIL
15. No bias Weights to be added to the car.
NOTES
STOCK MEANS STANDARD. AFTER MARKET HOP UPS ALLOWED, MUST BE LIKE FOR LIKE UPGRADES IE PLASTIC FOR ALLY. IF THE RULES DO NOT SAY U CAN U CAN NOT WITH OUT PERMISSION. PLEASE RAISE ANY POINTS AT ANY TIME.
RACING:
1. BOOKING IN MUST BE DONE TWENTY MINUTES PRIOR TO START TIME
2, RACE DURATION WILL BE SET BY CLUB
3, MAX OF 8 CARS PER RACE
4,CLUB DISCRESION FOR HEATS AND A FINAL, OTHER THAN BIGGER MEETINGS WERE THERE MAY BE SEMI’S
5, JUMP STARTS, OFFENDER WILL BE DOCKED TWO PLACES
7, EXCESSIVE CONTACT WILL NOT BE TOLLERATED AND WILL RESULT IN DEDUCTIONS (IE STRAIGHT LINING AND FOLLOW INS)
8, THE CONCEPT OF FORMULA IS TO COMPLETE AS MANY LAPS IN SET TIME WITH LIGHT CONTACT USING THE BUMPER TO MAKE PROGRESS THROUGH THE RACE
8B, CARS SHOULD DRIFT AROUND THE BENDS, CARS DEAMED NOT TO BE DRIFTING WILL BE PENALISED TWO PLACES.
9, RACES WILL BE RUN IN ANTI CLOCKWISE DIRECTION
10, IF ANY CAR IS MASHALLED IT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THAT RACE
11, IF YOUR CAR LEAVES THE CONFINES OF THE TRACK YOU WILL BE OUT OF THAT RACE
12 CARS THAT GO ON THERE SIDE OR ROOF IT WILL BE LEFT AND ONLY MASHELLED IF THE DRIVER ASKES BUT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THAT RACE. (Leaving on track means it can be knocked back on its wheels so you can continue)
13, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOUR CAR DURING A RACE WHERE POSSIBLE PULL OFF RACING LINE AND ASK FOR YOUR CAR TO BE MASHELLED ONCE LEFT THE RACE YOU CAN NOT REJOIN
14, ANY PROTESTS WILL ONLY BE CONSIDED IF DONE ON THE DAY OF MEETING
15, RACE DIRECTORS RULING IS FINAL AND BINDING
16, NOBODY TO ENTER THE TRACK WITH OUT PERMISSION OF RACE CONTROL
17, NO COMPETITOR TO APPROCH RACE CONTROL UNLESS MAKING AN APPEAL OR ASKED TO
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The Boss
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plus 21turn limit as before on motors
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dougal
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chris 210mm wide &400mm long wont that include some bath tub buggies aswell ithought we were staying on the forty pounds for the esc or is that to include brushless aswell & whats with rule about max weight were did that come from not shouldnt it b a min weight not max
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eastraxrc
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come on guys have your vote lets get this moving 96 views to the thread and 6 votes
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steeley
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We could all put a set of rules up for a vote and they will all be different the only way to do it is to have 2 reps from each club sit down and agree a set for the future this is getting us nowhere. Paul i emailed you a copy of the March rules if we have to go it alone we will do. Not saying that our rules are perfect but we need a starting point.I would rather be able to race at other clubs on a level playing field and just get racing, just this week we have another 2 members who have just got cars, the way this is growing the rules can't be far off as they are.
This will be my last post on this subject, March will vote on the rule's Friday and if voted in they will be in all year, if that mean's we can't race anywhere else so be it. Good luck guys
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The Boss
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I see no rules from march.
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steeley
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I will send again today...
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admin
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READ PAULS POST AGAIN RE SUGGESTED RULES, THEY HAVE BEEN EDITED .
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scooby
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can we start the vote again now rules have be up dated
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steeley
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A peice of info for you.
I weighed the Ansmann and the Tamiya TT01 today ;
The Ansmann weighed in at 1836g
The TT01 weighed in at 1734g
Both had the same battery in and both had wings on.
Because of the big difference i think you should be able to put weight in a TT01 (if you want to). Or put the Ansmann on a diet 
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rolphy
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Just read march rules and these ones again not alot of diffrence so i think we should be able to sort this out fast so we can get on with what we all want to do , RACE AND HAVE FUN , so come on lets sort it out, i love going to other tracks and having a laugh with you all ,this can only get better for everyone, i could be wrong but i can see 3 diffrences what are
rule 1
rule 15
racing rule 11
so if we are happy come to a ruling on these we can get on with it .
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scooby
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where are march rules
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rolphy
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sent pm
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scooby
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thanks
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The Boss
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OK so can we agree on the rules edited by FORM. as we pioneered it ?? and we can all get together after an initial period just to refine them before it gets taken to the BRCA?? We all have to make a compromise here or there! The 3 rules that are not the same???!! There is time to reinforce your opinion. Lets just run with it. The rules are tighter and less open, and easier to apply, which is what everyone wanted.
If you have specific concerns please voice them hear for others to see and explain yourself.
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rolphy
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I would be happy to see that the no added weight rule was made to , the car must not exceed 1900g so that we can all be the same but dont know how much a hpi weighs , so if under then that would be fine to.
and that the racing rule was change to if your car goes into middle of the track then a ramp maybe used to get out of at there own steam ,
again i cant speak for anyone else but thats what i would like to see, and yes the rules are alot better than befor and your right we need to get this done so we can go to the brca with them , not trying to upset anyone or putting this class down, just want it to be fair for all so we can get on with it and get this year under way and have some fun
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brad33
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rule changesrules seem ok to me,but why can we not use 2cell 7.4v lipos?? there is no speed advantage as paul let me use one the other week just you can get 3 races out of battery,just and suggestion as the way batterys and new products are changing thought it be an idea to let us use them
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The Boss
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If we have a weight limit it would have to be a minimum as dougal pointed out, if you look at the 1/10th touring rules on then brca electric board the only have min. weight limits. Lets not overcomplicate things. No bias weights, so chassis as supplied with hopups but no added weights front, rear or overall to gain an advantage. Sorted and simple.
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The Boss
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I think its time someone pointed out some of the people we all owe a debt of gratitude for, getting us to this stage with the Brisca Drift.
Yes it was Kens idea, and what an idea! Its time was right and th e10 was so cheap at the time at about £65 it was the ideal choice for conversion. Ken still makes his shells from ally but i realised if this was going to grow beyond our club a production shell was needed. This is why the abs shell came about.
Bazza Bates literally badgered me to run the briscas at form. It seems everyone forgets he is responsable for us running them. Ipswich didn't want to run them and at the time they had nowhere to go.
Peter worked tirelesly to promote the formula, with all his hard work we quickly went from 6 to over 20 racing. He is still promoting the formula through his club at Foxhall in ipswich.
Pete, Hoody, Ken, Dougal and others burned the midnight oil after race meetings to formulate the origional rules, which we all agreed on. Whilst I began to promote the formula to a wider audience.
The first big meeting for the Briscas we held was SSS, this was a real test for our I-lap system which FORM pioneered in the UK.
The rules we now have in place are an adaptation of the origional, with only minor changes.
We have something great, at its worst its great to watch when your car is broken, ask baz, at best its close, fair racing. Well done all of us. So lets get on with having some fun.
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steeley
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Glad to see this is a different message to what i read last night.
Nobody,s knocking anything that anybody has done in the past , people are taking it to personal we just needed to dot some i's and cross some t's to get as close as we can to a level playing field which will be the to the good of the formula, at March to night we had 18, i could not make it as i had a leaving do to go to (mine)  but i think within the next 2 weeks i think we will have over 20 on a club night. I dont care who started it, i am glad they did but all i want to do is race and have fun on equal term's with 20 + other's.
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